Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Pathology Report Is In!

Hoorah for NO CANCER!

We were expecting the pathology report to come in the next couple of days. It seems like sort of a moot subject since they did remove the organ containing the cancer, but it would be interesting to hear the findings of Carter’s liver. This was especially curious to Matt and me since the surgeon had told us he almost did a resection because he couldn’t feel any cancer in the right lobe. We were so fascinated by how good his touch may be…we’ve read articles from top surgeons in the world calling him the best in the world. Whatever his call had been in the operating room, we would have respected it. You can’t find someone with more experience. Well, as it turns out…his touch is pretty good. The pathology report reads, “No residual Hepatoblastoma.”

A few of the surgeons and one of liver transplant team’s doctors (our friend) came around to see Carter this afternoon. As they were talking to us about liver levels, they pulled up the pathology report on the computer. We don’t know if any of them had a chance to review it yet, but one of the surgeons said, “Wow! Carter’s chemo really worked.” He then went on to say no cancer was left in his liver. Sort of baffled, I said, “So, I guess we can be certain that these next two rounds of chemo will completely wipe out any cancer cells remaining?!” The cancer is obviously very chemo receptive, and we can breathe a sigh a relief that the cancer will be behind us.

As this news sank in, the more mixed emotions brewed from within Matt and me. No cancer?! Why did our son just have a liver transplant? Why didn’t they do another MRI after round 4 of chemo? We just kept asking each other these questions and would try and answer making the other feel better about the decision…even though we both just had stomach aches.

This is what we do know…the pathology report just did about 20 slides of Carter’s entire liver. The areas they did these slides may have been cancer-free, but who’s to say there were no traces of cancer throughout. And once there is dead tumor, there is no certainty cancer couldn’t return there. This was the most aggressive approach and doctors with years and years of experience felt this was Carter’s best chance to live cancer-free…and he’s got a long life ahead!

Our friend, Dr. Venick must have seen the look in our eyes when the surgeon said this to us. He came back in to see Matt and Carter this evening (as I had left to stay at home with Bennett for the night). He simply told Matt with recurrence of hepatoblastoma, 1 in 4 patients survive. These simply are not good enough odds. Matt felt a lot better as Dr. Venick continued to answer Matt’s questions, and he came to realize this was the best decision. As Matt and I talked about it tonight on the phone, we were saying how the families who have lost their children to hepatoblastoma due to recurrence can only dream of giving their children medicine each day to allow them to live a healthy life. Yes, there is always the scare of rejection for us now with this new liver and we have to give Carter a huge list of meds to take each day for the rest of his life…but Carter’s getting a chance at having a long life!

Thank you to the Venicks!! Kristen your daily visits and checking in on us brighten our days at UCLA, and make this process so much easier. You are knowledgeable, experienced, and a great person. And Rob, you are a fantastic doctor! Not only does everyone in the hospital say so, we know from first-hand experience. You have allowed us to question everything and have made us understand the obstacles and outcomes. We know you have been Carter’s doctor, but you have been our friend. Thank you!

13 comments:

  1. Congratulations! No more cancer is a wonderful things to hear! Hopefully uou will be home as a family soon

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  2. That doc is right, those are simply not good enough odds. That's Carter's new liver now and we are positive the old one would have given you more trouble. He is one amazing and tough little boy. We are inspired to keep our heads up when we think of what he does every day. We hope the D word is a reality real soon. Sending lots of love to you all.

    Daralyn

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  3. Kara and Matt-I am so happy you got a chance to talk to the doctor again so you are more at peace with the decision. Cancer is a pesky beast and it can hide in one cell, lay dormant and then start mulitiplying again when you least expect it. Yes it is scary about rejection and the massive pills but you don't have to worry about cancer showing up again. Carter looks so great...just awesome! Keep your head up and I am praying you can be home this weekend. Big hugs and lot's of hope for a new beginning for the Kipps! xoxo Cindy and John

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  4. So happy to hear that there is no residual cancer!!! I am also glad that you guys have such wonderful doctors that will take the time to talk to you and make you feel comfortable with your decision. I LOVE the picture of Carter...it says it all! Take care and thinking of you guys!

    Love,
    Courtney Norton

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  5. PRAISE GOD, PRAISE GOD, PRAISE GOD...the look on Carter's face says it all! This is awesome news. The doctors were surely listening to the Father and certainly made a good call. God's word says we have not because we ask not....so....CWL has asked God that He make the new liver become one with Carter's body, so there is NO room for rejection....CWL rejects even the very idea of rejection. We have prayed, prayed, and prayed some more for a certifiable creative miracle for Carter & your family and we won't settle for anything less then God's best! Doing the dance of joy with you...yep need to make some calls when I get home! Hugs!!!

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  6. What a great picture!! We are so happy for you!!

    Josh and Dana Young

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  7. Hoorah is so right Carter. Love those "hands up". We are all so very proud of you and how you are improving each day. Keep throwing those big smiles out to us. We love it.

    A big thank you to the wonderful Doctors!

    Tink

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  8. Woohooo!!!! Carter's just living in the moment, you can tell--what a "picture is worth a thousand words" moment.

    How lucky you have been to have someone like Dr. Vennick throughout this process. It makes a world of difference to know that you really DID make the best decision that you could have made for the rest of Carter's life--but to have reassurance of that is relieving too. We'll keep praying that the big "D" is coming and home you'll all be together before little brother makes his appearance.

    ITB,
    Jenny

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  9. Kara,
    Your little hero is amazing & inspiring....like you said before, Cancer survivors/patients are a special breed! They are to be respected for the challenge that their body has to face and the joy of victory in the end that we all celebrate in. Carter will soon be back with Big Brother, Bennett, waiting for their new brother! Love, Cathy Sukiasian

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  10. Chills and tears again. I am happy the chemo worked and that Carter is healing. I agree that the odds were not good enough....now he is healthy. Praying for you nightly!
    Brooke

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  11. Whoooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So happy to hear this news....chemo sucks, but it works and I think this is just amazing news... Love you guys!!!!

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  12. That is so great that you got a chance to talk to the doctor after all the uncertainity and it sounds like the transplant was absolutely the best decision for a life free of cancer. That is fantastic! It also sounds like Carter is moving right along and the "D" talk might actually be happening before the weekend right? We look forward to hopefully hearing about another great day tomorrow and hopefully about a restful night tonight! We love you!
    Shelley H.

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  13. Our hearts are so full for all of you. We are so thrilled that Carter is doing so well. We have a very close adult friend who had a liver transplant at UCLA probably 10 years ago. He is a new person. I know he is not a child, but for both adults and children, I think UCLA is the best for liver transplants. The four of you are truly amazing. We love you and send you hugs and kisses. Hope Carter gets to come home soon!!!!!Love, Sandy Perlmutter

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